There is nothing like listening to politicians talk.
They try to adjust everything to their own reality.
Don't expect to hear the complete truth.
But if you tune in to their talks, you can learn a lot about the people who support them and for their internal narrative.
The moral of the story is don't expect politicians to give you correct information.
When you need such information, talk to experts. They might be not so confident and give you a few options and not the only true path.
And this is good, because the end decision and opinion must be always up to you!